Comments on: Ajax on Rails – Prototype vs JQuery

By: theBecFromMontreal

theBecFromMontreal — Mon, 30 Mar 2009 21:34:21 +0000

Quick question:

I’ve been working hard trying to find a real meaning to the topic about the Javascript framework war (JFW).

The thing is, this debate is not helping any of us.

Designers prefer jQuery because it’s more fun and cute (From what I read on blogs and around me).

Programmers like me love Prototype for one thing (amoung others): real event binding with data/OOP (which is non-sens in jQuery because jQuery is suddenly not cute when we add complexity. But, the thing is, I’m a complexity specialist. I develop Web Applications, which, sometimes, they must fit with the complexity of my clients. Designers do not deal with complexity: they make the application look good. And they are very good at it. Their work is very important and valuable, but Prototype gives me more power of abstraction.)

Could we all of us be more productive and work togheter? A solution: Combine jQuery and Prototype?

Combine the cute way of coding effects (because this is all about), and combine the powered structure of Prototype?

By: Snowcore

Snowcore — Thu, 10 Jan 2008 13:47:32 +0000

I think that jQuery is the best framework and it will remove Prototype.js

By: Aaron

Aaron — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 22:35:02 +0000

I just completed a plugin called jRails that makes using jQuery with Rails very easy. It is essentially a drop-in jQuery replacement for Prototype/script.aculo.us on Rails and you get all of the same default Rails helpers using the lighter jQuery library.
http://www.ennerchi.com/projects/jrails

By: Matthijs

Matthijs — Sat, 02 Sep 2006 06:35:42 +0000

Nice article, thanks. I do want to add though that the example is still confusing. First I opened the link to the demo in another tab (as I always do). But then you’ll just end up on the same article page, no demo popup. Then after reading the comments, I understood it’s a popup. So I just clicked the link and indeed, a new window opens. But then my no-script extension blocked the script. I did allow script from devlounge, so I was a little suspicious to allow js from drnicwilliams.com, a domain I didn’t know (xss anyone?). So to the author and anyone reading this: you can’t make it obvious enough. Never. Just mention in big fat letters what will happen. What about my 80 yr old grandma who … well ok, she’ll probably not be interested in jquery and prototype

But a nice article and demo, cheers.

By: aj

aj — Wed, 23 Aug 2006 17:54:44 +0000

@summae, you’re also right, we have exceptions to our rule, for example, there’s no reason for Nic to remove his article on his site even though we’ve got the demo working here, because the original purpose of the cross linking between articles was to show the working demo. Anyways enough side talk, let’s get back to comments on this wonderful article

By: summae

summae — Wed, 23 Aug 2006 16:23:06 +0000

I think the change you made, in turning it into a link for a popup example, did help. My problem was indeed simply that there was confusing that the example did not work on the page, and it did not. I would have even been fine if you simply stated that you were linking to an external page to demo the example, and left the link to Dr. Nic as it was.

To Ronalfy, thank you for your support, but I do understand why these articles are cross-posted. The authors of these excellent articles would like to have the articles appear on there own websites, in addition to devlounge, and if devlounge did not allow this, well then they would have a very hard time getting so many good articles.

By: aj

aj — Wed, 23 Aug 2006 16:18:37 +0000

The “the following effect” now opens in a popup window, so there’s no need to leave the site.

@Ronalfy, all of our featured articles are usually not cross posted, for the same reason you have supplied. We like our content to be site specific. Some of our previous staff (who have since been removed), wrote some articles and did a lot of linking to their own sites, where they reposted the article. Anything is “Sidenotes” will usually point to full articles elsewhere, because that’s what Sidenotes is about.

By: Dr Nic

Dr Nic — Wed, 23 Aug 2006 16:17:26 +0000

Sorry, I spoke too soon. AJ has it working in a popup.

By: Dr Nic

Dr Nic — Wed, 23 Aug 2006 16:16:18 +0000

I agree that the article should be in one place. It was written for Devlounge, but the example wasn’t working. The solution was to link the article to a duplicate where Wordpress allowed it to work.

I’ll update the article to clear this up in the text.

By: Ronalfy

Ronalfy — Wed, 23 Aug 2006 16:10:37 +0000

I think summae brought up a good point about the original article problem. I’ve noticed that several of the articles on this site are cross posted. Why is that? I feel if articles are written for this site, then this site should be the only place where the articles can be found. Just my opinion.

By: aj

aj — Wed, 23 Aug 2006 15:54:26 +0000

We were having (strange) problems getting the example to function right in my install of Wordpress. I’ll try to get the in-post example working correctly today.

By: summae

summae — Wed, 23 Aug 2006 15:34:34 +0000

Hi,
On your site, in my browser, firefox 1.5.0.6, your example is simply functioning as a link to Dr. Nic. I believe this is a bit confusing, as this is supposed to be the original article, and there is no mention that this is the way it is supposed to work, as in, “clicking on this example will take you to the site where it will actually be demonstrated. You may want to clear this up. Other than that great article.