<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Danger Will Robinson! ~Status Bar Alerts~</title>
	<atom:link href="http://www.devlounge.net/code/danger-will-robinson-status-bar-alerts/feed" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://www.devlounge.net/code/danger-will-robinson-status-bar-alerts</link>
	<description>Design, Develop, and Grow</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 09:03:06 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator>
	<item>
		<title>By: Caesar's Grunt</title>
		<link>http://www.devlounge.net/code/danger-will-robinson-status-bar-alerts/comment-page-1#comment-141806</link>
		<dc:creator>Caesar's Grunt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 19:15:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.devlounge.net/articles/danger-will-robinson-status-bar-alerts#comment-141806</guid>
		<description>A couple of other pointas : 

First, MSIE is &lt;em&gt;not&lt;/em&gt; the only browser that &#039;supports&#039; this. Safari does, and I believe Icab, OmniWeb, and possibly Shiira do too.

Second, this isn&#039;t really the right way to go about setting a status message. If you use this method, then when the user mouses over a link, for example, the message will go and will not return after they mouseout. It&#039;s better (from the point of view of getting your message in the statusbar) to use &lt;code&gt;window.defaultstatus&lt;/code&gt; - then your text becomes a default status message, and is shown in the statusbar again after any temporary notification has gone.

That said, it&#039;s still best from a usability perspective to do neither. Plese add a warning! (I, myself, don&#039;t actually mind this &lt;em&gt;too&lt;/em&gt; much - it&#039;s certainly not, in my opinion, as bad as forcing new windows all over the place when your visitor clicks on external links. I have even been known to use status messages myself in the past - but at least I was aware of the effects and implications first!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A couple of other pointas : </p>
<p>First, MSIE is <em>not</em> the only browser that &#8216;supports&#8217; this. Safari does, and I believe Icab, OmniWeb, and possibly Shiira do too.</p>
<p>Second, this isn&#8217;t really the right way to go about setting a status message. If you use this method, then when the user mouses over a link, for example, the message will go and will not return after they mouseout. It&#8217;s better (from the point of view of getting your message in the statusbar) to use <code>window.defaultstatus</code> &#8211; then your text becomes a default status message, and is shown in the statusbar again after any temporary notification has gone.</p>
<p>That said, it&#8217;s still best from a usability perspective to do neither. Plese add a warning! (I, myself, don&#8217;t actually mind this <em>too</em> much &#8211; it&#8217;s certainly not, in my opinion, as bad as forcing new windows all over the place when your visitor clicks on external links. I have even been known to use status messages myself in the past &#8211; but at least I was aware of the effects and implications first!)</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Caesar's Grunt</title>
		<link>http://www.devlounge.net/code/danger-will-robinson-status-bar-alerts/comment-page-1#comment-141805</link>
		<dc:creator>Caesar's Grunt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 18:36:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.devlounge.net/articles/danger-will-robinson-status-bar-alerts#comment-141805</guid>
		<description>I have to agree; please, &lt;em&gt;please&lt;/em&gt;, remove this article, or at the &lt;em&gt;very least&lt;/em&gt; add an explaination of why this shouldn&#039;t be done if you don&#039;t really know what you&#039;re up to!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree; please, <em>please</em>, remove this article, or at the <em>very least</em> add an explaination of why this shouldn&#8217;t be done if you don&#8217;t really know what you&#8217;re up to!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Pikadude No. 1</title>
		<link>http://www.devlounge.net/code/danger-will-robinson-status-bar-alerts/comment-page-1#comment-141782</link>
		<dc:creator>Pikadude No. 1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 22:53:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.devlounge.net/articles/danger-will-robinson-status-bar-alerts#comment-141782</guid>
		<description>For clarity, my previous comment was directed at Reflexion, not at Aaron.


Excluding the author, I count six unique commenters here, unanimously booing the article. Reflexion, are you going to react in some satisfactory fashion? (ie: editing the article, removing it entirely, or at least trying to defend the article)

Do you even know what your commenters are talking about? Quick quiz: What is the title attribute? (not the title tag, which is entirely different)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For clarity, my previous comment was directed at Reflexion, not at Aaron.</p>
<p>Excluding the author, I count six unique commenters here, unanimously booing the article. Reflexion, are you going to react in some satisfactory fashion? (ie: editing the article, removing it entirely, or at least trying to defend the article)</p>
<p>Do you even know what your commenters are talking about? Quick quiz: What is the title attribute? (not the title tag, which is entirely different)</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://www.devlounge.net/code/danger-will-robinson-status-bar-alerts/comment-page-1#comment-141707</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 13:09:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.devlounge.net/articles/danger-will-robinson-status-bar-alerts#comment-141707</guid>
		<description>To add to the growing voices of dissent: dear god, please remove this article. The only people who are going to listen are noobs who you should be influencing for the better, not to write outdated code like this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To add to the growing voices of dissent: dear god, please remove this article. The only people who are going to listen are noobs who you should be influencing for the better, not to write outdated code like this.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Aaron Bassett</title>
		<link>http://www.devlounge.net/code/danger-will-robinson-status-bar-alerts/comment-page-1#comment-141552</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Bassett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 10:36:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.devlounge.net/articles/danger-will-robinson-status-bar-alerts#comment-141552</guid>
		<description>sorry the comment system removed the last code in example in my previous comment, hopefully it should display this time:

Am actually starting to think I have traveled back to 1998, what is this “language” attribute you speak of?

// &lt;script type=&#039;text/javascript&#039;&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sorry the comment system removed the last code in example in my previous comment, hopefully it should display this time:</p>
<p>Am actually starting to think I have traveled back to 1998, what is this “language” attribute you speak of?</p>
<p>// &lt;script type=&#8217;text/javascript&#8217;&gt;</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Pikadude No. 1</title>
		<link>http://www.devlounge.net/code/danger-will-robinson-status-bar-alerts/comment-page-1#comment-141541</link>
		<dc:creator>Pikadude No. 1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 21:50:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.devlounge.net/articles/danger-will-robinson-status-bar-alerts#comment-141541</guid>
		<description>New developers also don&#039;t know that the status bar is a bad place to put important messages for a website&#039;s visitors, for reasons Stefan and Ryan brought up. Yet you fail to mention this.

If you want to teach your readers something simple, yet useful, how about the title attribute? All the handiness of window.status, plus portability across Web browsers, minus JavaScript, minus interfering with normal status bar functionality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>New developers also don&#8217;t know that the status bar is a bad place to put important messages for a website&#8217;s visitors, for reasons Stefan and Ryan brought up. Yet you fail to mention this.</p>
<p>If you want to teach your readers something simple, yet useful, how about the title attribute? All the handiness of window.status, plus portability across Web browsers, minus JavaScript, minus interfering with normal status bar functionality.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Aaron Bassett</title>
		<link>http://www.devlounge.net/code/danger-will-robinson-status-bar-alerts/comment-page-1#comment-141536</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Bassett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 13:28:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.devlounge.net/articles/danger-will-robinson-status-bar-alerts#comment-141536</guid>
		<description>Ignoring the &quot;don&#039;t mess with the user&#039;s browser&quot; problems, even the code itself, am sorry to say - just plain sucks!

Where is the object detection? You say that it will only work with IE, but there is no checking to see if it is supported, everyone else be damned huh?

// if(window.status) {

And why are you polluting the global namespace? There&#039;s this great new thing in Javascript (I hear some other languages might be getting them soon as well) called ARGUMENTS. 
These new fangled things let you pass all manners of information into a function, even strings!! wow!

// function statustype(txt) {

Am actually starting to think I have traveled back to 1998, what is this &quot;language&quot; attribute you speak of?

// 

Look I get what you are saying about helping people at a lower level and expanding the reader base, but please if you want to help them don&#039;t provide such crappy code for them to learn from :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ignoring the &#8220;don&#8217;t mess with the user&#8217;s browser&#8221; problems, even the code itself, am sorry to say &#8211; just plain sucks!</p>
<p>Where is the object detection? You say that it will only work with IE, but there is no checking to see if it is supported, everyone else be damned huh?</p>
<p>// if(window.status) {</p>
<p>And why are you polluting the global namespace? There&#8217;s this great new thing in Javascript (I hear some other languages might be getting them soon as well) called ARGUMENTS.<br />
These new fangled things let you pass all manners of information into a function, even strings!! wow!</p>
<p>// function statustype(txt) {</p>
<p>Am actually starting to think I have traveled back to 1998, what is this &#8220;language&#8221; attribute you speak of?</p>
<p>// </p>
<p>Look I get what you are saying about helping people at a lower level and expanding the reader base, but please if you want to help them don&#8217;t provide such crappy code for them to learn from <img src='http://www.devlounge.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Reflexion</title>
		<link>http://www.devlounge.net/code/danger-will-robinson-status-bar-alerts/comment-page-1#comment-141502</link>
		<dc:creator>Reflexion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 21:03:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.devlounge.net/articles/danger-will-robinson-status-bar-alerts#comment-141502</guid>
		<description>Agreed that a lot of  what I have been writing is very Simple topics however  Just because you  know things at a certain level doesnt Mean everyone else  does. Simple subjects are ones that are rarely touced on and we can expand our readership by including topics That  new developers would  be on google searching for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed that a lot of  what I have been writing is very Simple topics however  Just because you  know things at a certain level doesnt Mean everyone else  does. Simple subjects are ones that are rarely touced on and we can expand our readership by including topics That  new developers would  be on google searching for.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Ryan Williams</title>
		<link>http://www.devlounge.net/code/danger-will-robinson-status-bar-alerts/comment-page-1#comment-141500</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 19:37:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.devlounge.net/articles/danger-will-robinson-status-bar-alerts#comment-141500</guid>
		<description>But yes, I agree: nobody should ever override status bar text. Being able to see the URL in the status bar is a very basic browser function, and overriding it is even worse than forcing links into new windows/tabs IMO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But yes, I agree: nobody should ever override status bar text. Being able to see the URL in the status bar is a very basic browser function, and overriding it is even worse than forcing links into new windows/tabs IMO.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Ryan Williams</title>
		<link>http://www.devlounge.net/code/danger-will-robinson-status-bar-alerts/comment-page-1#comment-141499</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 19:36:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.devlounge.net/articles/danger-will-robinson-status-bar-alerts#comment-141499</guid>
		<description>The article content on Devlounge has been getting very increasingly newbiefied. This is even more so than usual, though.

I was under the impression that most Devlounge readers are relatively savvy web designers/developers, so doing little tricks like this isn&#039;t really beyond what any of us could Google for within seconds if we wanted to actually do it (which we don&#039;t).

Not really an attack at this article in general, but I doubt anyone who&#039;s been reading Devlounge for a while hasn&#039;t noticed the BIG drop in complexity to articles.

I mean, making galleries? Using favicons? Changing the status bar text? Activating caching in WordPress? This is all seriously amateur stuff -- and Devlounge&#039;s readership isn&#039;t a bunch of amateurs AFAIK. I haven&#039;t seen a compelling Devlounge article in months.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The article content on Devlounge has been getting very increasingly newbiefied. This is even more so than usual, though.</p>
<p>I was under the impression that most Devlounge readers are relatively savvy web designers/developers, so doing little tricks like this isn&#8217;t really beyond what any of us could Google for within seconds if we wanted to actually do it (which we don&#8217;t).</p>
<p>Not really an attack at this article in general, but I doubt anyone who&#8217;s been reading Devlounge for a while hasn&#8217;t noticed the BIG drop in complexity to articles.</p>
<p>I mean, making galleries? Using favicons? Changing the status bar text? Activating caching in WordPress? This is all seriously amateur stuff &#8212; and Devlounge&#8217;s readership isn&#8217;t a bunch of amateurs AFAIK. I haven&#8217;t seen a compelling Devlounge article in months.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://www.devlounge.net/code/danger-will-robinson-status-bar-alerts/comment-page-1#comment-141493</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:56:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.devlounge.net/articles/danger-will-robinson-status-bar-alerts#comment-141493</guid>
		<description>Amen, Stefan. This is awful. I can&#039;t believe it&#039;s not April 1st.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen, Stefan. This is awful. I can&#8217;t believe it&#8217;s not April 1st.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Stefan</title>
		<link>http://www.devlounge.net/code/danger-will-robinson-status-bar-alerts/comment-page-1#comment-141490</link>
		<dc:creator>Stefan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 14:37:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.devlounge.net/articles/danger-will-robinson-status-bar-alerts#comment-141490</guid>
		<description>This is sooo 1998.. 

Please, ignore this article and don&#039;t manipulate your visitors browser. Don&#039;t show any informations where they are not expected. For sure, the status bar alerts are not for usability.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is sooo 1998.. </p>
<p>Please, ignore this article and don&#8217;t manipulate your visitors browser. Don&#8217;t show any informations where they are not expected. For sure, the status bar alerts are not for usability.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>

