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		<title>By: Pixel Village &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Adeus IE6!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pixel Village &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Adeus IE6!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 03:19:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Bill Dunno</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Dunno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 22:52:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>can&#039;t do this in a paid job, but maybe if every designer added this piece at the beginning of each style sheet of his own pages...
* { border:666px;}
only works in (lte) ie6.

[change the value to lower numbers to see what&#039;s happening]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>can&#8217;t do this in a paid job, but maybe if every designer added this piece at the beginning of each style sheet of his own pages&#8230;<br />
* { border:666px;}<br />
only works in (lte) ie6.</p>
<p>[change the value to lower numbers to see what's happening]</p>
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		<title>By: devlounge.net: &#8220;The Death of Internet Explorer 6: Still Prematurely Called&#8221; &#171; Is IE6 dead yet?</title>
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		<dc:creator>devlounge.net: &#8220;The Death of Internet Explorer 6: Still Prematurely Called&#8221; &#171; Is IE6 dead yet?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 18:19:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Thord Daniel Hedengren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thord Daniel Hedengren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 09:50:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bailsoft, that&#039;s not true at all. It just got caught in the spam filter for some reason, that&#039;s all.

Thanks for commenting! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bailsoft, that&#8217;s not true at all. It just got caught in the spam filter for some reason, that&#8217;s all.</p>
<p>Thanks for commenting! <img src='http://www.devlounge.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Bailsoft</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bailsoft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 18:12:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s going on here? When I posted on the 15/10/8 my message of 14/10/8 wasn&#039;t visible, that is not until I posted my warning.  Apologies, this is a balanced, if quirky, Website.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s going on here? When I posted on the 15/10/8 my message of 14/10/8 wasn&#8217;t visible, that is not until I posted my warning.  Apologies, this is a balanced, if quirky, Website.</p>
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		<title>By: Bailsoft</title>
		<link>http://www.devlounge.net/column/the-death-of-internet-explorer-6-still-prematurely-called/comment-page-1#comment-176464</link>
		<dc:creator>Bailsoft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 18:09:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see my comments in support of IE6 were unwelcome. Warning to others, don&#039;t post anything positive about IE6 as it will be deleted!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see my comments in support of IE6 were unwelcome. Warning to others, don&#8217;t post anything positive about IE6 as it will be deleted!</p>
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		<title>By: Bailsoft</title>
		<link>http://www.devlounge.net/column/the-death-of-internet-explorer-6-still-prematurely-called/comment-page-1#comment-176458</link>
		<dc:creator>Bailsoft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 19:39:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After finding that IE6 could no longer render SlashDot correctly, I recently &#039;upgraded&#039; from IE6 to Firefox only to find that I was unable to order my groceries from Tesco.com; Firefox kept asking to save all the &#039;.asp&#039; pages rather than render them! Therefore, I &#039;upgraded&#039; again to IE7 and found the user interface dreadful and (relatively) uncustomisable.  In addtion IE7, like Vista, is really sloooooooow. Consequently I&#039;m back to IE6. Long live IE6!
Why is new software so bad? Because it&#039;s too complicated, that&#039;s why. And don&#039;t get me started on new hardware. Widescreen? I think you mean less tall!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After finding that IE6 could no longer render SlashDot correctly, I recently &#8216;upgraded&#8217; from IE6 to Firefox only to find that I was unable to order my groceries from Tesco.com; Firefox kept asking to save all the &#8216;.asp&#8217; pages rather than render them! Therefore, I &#8216;upgraded&#8217; again to IE7 and found the user interface dreadful and (relatively) uncustomisable.  In addtion IE7, like Vista, is really sloooooooow. Consequently I&#8217;m back to IE6. Long live IE6!<br />
Why is new software so bad? Because it&#8217;s too complicated, that&#8217;s why. And don&#8217;t get me started on new hardware. Widescreen? I think you mean less tall!</p>
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		<title>By: Ludwig Pettersson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ludwig Pettersson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 14:36:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You don&#039;t have to support Safari or Opera because they render pretty much exactly like Firefox, which means they don&#039;t require any extra work - so you can&#039;t compare them to IE6.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You don&#8217;t have to support Safari or Opera because they render pretty much exactly like Firefox, which means they don&#8217;t require any extra work &#8211; so you can&#8217;t compare them to IE6.</p>
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		<title>By: keif</title>
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		<dc:creator>keif</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 17:44:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem I see is we&#039;re going about it all wrong. &quot;We should support IE6 because so many use it.&quot; Did you check stats on IE5 and hold the same arguments that we need to support them because they hadn&#039;t updated yet?

People are just *dying* to tout &quot;I support IE6&quot; instead of saying &quot;Yes, I will support IE6, but if you drop support, you&#039;ll save money and time by asking your users to upgrade.&quot;

It&#039;s a matter of no one has taken the time to come up with a study (or information) of the costs of supporting IE6 - the hazards, the flaws, the costs in fixing IE6 specific bugs.

No one wants to &quot;be the one&quot; and instead wants to point out &quot;so many people use it - it&#039;d e wrong to ask them to upgrade for a better experience&quot; - well, we do tell people this every day.
&quot;Maybe it&#039;s time you traded in your tank and get something a little more economical.&quot;
&quot;Maybe you should eat healthier and work out a bit.&quot;
&quot;Maybe you should vote with your head and not your political party.&quot;
&quot;Maybe you should buy American.&quot;

See where I&#039;m going? Non-stop inundating, but no one wants to stand up and go back to the (omg, nielsen unapproved)  &quot;You need to upgrade your browser.&quot;

Enough coddling. People need to be lead, the majority *does not* constitute some right that we shouldn&#039;t tell them what to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem I see is we&#8217;re going about it all wrong. &#8220;We should support IE6 because so many use it.&#8221; Did you check stats on IE5 and hold the same arguments that we need to support them because they hadn&#8217;t updated yet?</p>
<p>People are just *dying* to tout &#8220;I support IE6&#8243; instead of saying &#8220;Yes, I will support IE6, but if you drop support, you&#8217;ll save money and time by asking your users to upgrade.&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a matter of no one has taken the time to come up with a study (or information) of the costs of supporting IE6 &#8211; the hazards, the flaws, the costs in fixing IE6 specific bugs.</p>
<p>No one wants to &#8220;be the one&#8221; and instead wants to point out &#8220;so many people use it &#8211; it&#8217;d e wrong to ask them to upgrade for a better experience&#8221; &#8211; well, we do tell people this every day.<br />
&#8220;Maybe it&#8217;s time you traded in your tank and get something a little more economical.&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Maybe you should eat healthier and work out a bit.&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Maybe you should vote with your head and not your political party.&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Maybe you should buy American.&#8221;</p>
<p>See where I&#8217;m going? Non-stop inundating, but no one wants to stand up and go back to the (omg, nielsen unapproved)  &#8220;You need to upgrade your browser.&#8221;</p>
<p>Enough coddling. People need to be lead, the majority *does not* constitute some right that we shouldn&#8217;t tell them what to do.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 15:23:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Facebook actually helped the case by prompting all of its users to upgrade to IE7 a while back.

I think it&#039;s important to realise that this is not just about &#039;trivial site aesthetics&#039;...it&#039;s about sustaining the momentum of progress across the entire Internet landscape!

New browsers bring with them new chances for developements and functionality. And by forcing users to upgrade, we&#039;re forcing the web to &#039;upgrade&#039; - looking forward, that can only be a good thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Facebook actually helped the case by prompting all of its users to upgrade to IE7 a while back.</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s important to realise that this is not just about &#8216;trivial site aesthetics&#8217;&#8230;it&#8217;s about sustaining the momentum of progress across the entire Internet landscape!</p>
<p>New browsers bring with them new chances for developements and functionality. And by forcing users to upgrade, we&#8217;re forcing the web to &#8216;upgrade&#8217; &#8211; looking forward, that can only be a good thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Ty (liveblog)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ty (liveblog)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 21:43:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was sort of moved to write-up a little piece, helping to usher in the eminent demise of the oft-maligned and rightly so, non-conformist to web standards browser. Linked the article as my homepage. Alas, anyone running IE6 probably is not reading a design blog, and is probably doing nothing these days but going to facebook, because they think that is the &quot;real&quot; internet, and suffice it to think a facebook page is a substitute for a leading-edge website to be viewed in a leading-edge browser.
So fire-up the defibrillator and give that IE6 another zap to debug your latest works. Let&#039;s just hope the ol; boy can take it, lol, lol. R.i.P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was sort of moved to write-up a little piece, helping to usher in the eminent demise of the oft-maligned and rightly so, non-conformist to web standards browser. Linked the article as my homepage. Alas, anyone running IE6 probably is not reading a design blog, and is probably doing nothing these days but going to facebook, because they think that is the &#8220;real&#8221; internet, and suffice it to think a facebook page is a substitute for a leading-edge website to be viewed in a leading-edge browser.<br />
So fire-up the defibrillator and give that IE6 another zap to debug your latest works. Let&#8217;s just hope the ol; boy can take it, lol, lol. R.i.P</p>
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		<title>By: Hudin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hudin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 22:30:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, it does appear the IE6 is definitely on the outs.  Most of my sites drop a significant number of IE6 users each month (also true &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.w3counter.com/globalstats.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;).  My personal site only has about 12% on IE6.  I still develop for it though, although the next iteration of a number of sites will not include support.  There are other, nagging ways to go about getting people to upgrade, like the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.end6.org&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;End6!&lt;/a&gt; campaign that I started.  In addition to that, I always have the latest version of Firefox on my flash drive to install on someone&#039;s machine, although for folks on slow connections (who are often the ones not upgrading), &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.maneno.org/eng/articles/safe_browsing_at_slower_speeds/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Firefox 3 can be a problem&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.hudin.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Hudin&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, it does appear the IE6 is definitely on the outs.  Most of my sites drop a significant number of IE6 users each month (also true <a href="http://www.w3counter.com/globalstats.php" rel="nofollow">here</a>).  My personal site only has about 12% on IE6.  I still develop for it though, although the next iteration of a number of sites will not include support.  There are other, nagging ways to go about getting people to upgrade, like the <a href="http://www.end6.org" rel="nofollow">End6!</a> campaign that I started.  In addition to that, I always have the latest version of Firefox on my flash drive to install on someone&#8217;s machine, although for folks on slow connections (who are often the ones not upgrading), <a href="http://www.maneno.org/eng/articles/safe_browsing_at_slower_speeds/" rel="nofollow">Firefox 3 can be a problem</a>.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.hudin.com/" rel="nofollow">Hudin</a></p>
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