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	<title>Comments on: Web 2.0, Future Creep, and the Irony of Frameworks</title>
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		<title>By: Nick Palacios</title>
		<link>http://www.devlounge.net/column/web-20-future-creep-and-the-irony-of-frameworks/comment-page-1#comment-176746</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Palacios</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 16:56:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting take on frameworks Dustin. Not in total agreement. How can you plan for something if you are not sure what it is? I agree with Dan that frameworks are most beneficial when used for large projects. I have used frameworks for large projects that had functionality that I didn&#039;t think I would need....two years later I was sure glad to find the functionality was already in the framework I choose. It may not have been available when the framework was initially released, but thanks to aggressive framework communities they are constantly trying new things. Blah blah I am done now.

Next time I sit down to build a web application I thankfully don&#039;t have to think &quot;how can I do this without a framework?&quot;.

Also, frameworks saved my marriage. ha ha

All-in-all great article Dustin!

~Nick // Me &lt;3 jQuery</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting take on frameworks Dustin. Not in total agreement. How can you plan for something if you are not sure what it is? I agree with Dan that frameworks are most beneficial when used for large projects. I have used frameworks for large projects that had functionality that I didn&#8217;t think I would need&#8230;.two years later I was sure glad to find the functionality was already in the framework I choose. It may not have been available when the framework was initially released, but thanks to aggressive framework communities they are constantly trying new things. Blah blah I am done now.</p>
<p>Next time I sit down to build a web application I thankfully don&#8217;t have to think &#8220;how can I do this without a framework?&#8221;.</p>
<p>Also, frameworks saved my marriage. ha ha</p>
<p>All-in-all great article Dustin!</p>
<p>~Nick // Me &lt;3 jQuery</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Lee</title>
		<link>http://www.devlounge.net/column/web-20-future-creep-and-the-irony-of-frameworks/comment-page-1#comment-176626</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 13:58:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lets not get that carried away,  Ashley.

You can still use frameworks but cut back on needless implementation. It shows most when working on big projects, that of which would take endless hours if it weren&#039;t for frameworks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lets not get that carried away,  Ashley.</p>
<p>You can still use frameworks but cut back on needless implementation. It shows most when working on big projects, that of which would take endless hours if it weren&#8217;t for frameworks.</p>
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		<title>By: Ashley Williams</title>
		<link>http://www.devlounge.net/column/web-20-future-creep-and-the-irony-of-frameworks/comment-page-1#comment-176616</link>
		<dc:creator>Ashley Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 07:37:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well the 37Signal guys are behind the Ruby on Rails framework, and the Prototype JS library founder Sam Stephenson works there — so I think its safe to say they are massive supporters of frameworks (except CSS ones anyhow, although apart from resets I personally don&#039;t know anyone who uses them anyway).

If I was you, I would tell the guy who said that hes an idiot, unless he technically is better at your job than you. (actually, no — I&#039;d probably hand in my resignation and go find a job where my opinions and decisions are respected.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well the 37Signal guys are behind the Ruby on Rails framework, and the Prototype JS library founder Sam Stephenson works there — so I think its safe to say they are massive supporters of frameworks (except CSS ones anyhow, although apart from resets I personally don&#8217;t know anyone who uses them anyway).</p>
<p>If I was you, I would tell the guy who said that hes an idiot, unless he technically is better at your job than you. (actually, no — I&#8217;d probably hand in my resignation and go find a job where my opinions and decisions are respected.)</p>
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