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		<title>By: Trevor</title>
		<link>http://www.devlounge.net/friday-focus/friday-focus-29/comment-page-1#comment-41520</link>
		<dc:creator>Trevor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2007 23:54:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>inspirationbit,
Sure you could make it work with 4 columns. Float each list item and give it a width of 50%.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://trevordavis.net/contact/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;My contact form&lt;/a&gt; is layed out using an ordered list, obviously it&#8217;s a simple form but still, it could easily be accomplished.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>inspirationbit,<br />
Sure you could make it work with 4 columns. Float each list item and give it a width of 50%.</p>
<p><a href="http://trevordavis.net/contact/" rel="nofollow">My contact form</a> is layed out using an ordered list, obviously it&rsquo;s a simple form but still, it could easily be accomplished.</p>
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		<title>By: inspirationbit</title>
		<link>http://www.devlounge.net/friday-focus/friday-focus-29/comment-page-1#comment-41411</link>
		<dc:creator>inspirationbit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2007 14:21:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trevor, I like the idea of using lists to lay out the form, but would it work to layout a complex form with say 4 columns (two columns with a label and a field in each one)? Any online examples would be appreciated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trevor, I like the idea of using lists to lay out the form, but would it work to layout a complex form with say 4 columns (two columns with a label and a field in each one)? Any online examples would be appreciated.</p>
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		<title>By: Trevor</title>
		<link>http://www.devlounge.net/friday-focus/friday-focus-29/comment-page-1#comment-41383</link>
		<dc:creator>Trevor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2007 12:52:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Instead of using divs for forms, why not use something more semantic? What is a form really except for a list of fields to fill out? Why not use an ordered list, and then have each label and field within a list item? That is how I have been laying forms out, and it is consistent across browsers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Instead of using divs for forms, why not use something more semantic? What is a form really except for a list of fields to fill out? Why not use an ordered list, and then have each label and field within a list item? That is how I have been laying forms out, and it is consistent across browsers.</p>
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		<title>By: inspirationbit</title>
		<link>http://www.devlounge.net/friday-focus/friday-focus-29/comment-page-1#comment-41175</link>
		<dc:creator>inspirationbit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2007 19:50:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that it&#039;s best to use tables for tabular data only, but sometimes all those CSS &quot;frameworks&quot; to get the forms displaying properly within the given template in any browser become too bulky, and it actually makes sense to use tables instead and save on a headache. I rather use tables and compromise a bit, than use IE hacks and tons of nested DIVs just to get those form elements aligned properly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that it&#8217;s best to use tables for tabular data only, but sometimes all those CSS &#8220;frameworks&#8221; to get the forms displaying properly within the given template in any browser become too bulky, and it actually makes sense to use tables instead and save on a headache. I rather use tables and compromise a bit, than use IE hacks and tons of nested DIVs just to get those form elements aligned properly.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Bowling</title>
		<link>http://www.devlounge.net/friday-focus/friday-focus-29/comment-page-1#comment-41161</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Bowling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2007 18:19:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree... tables for tabular data, not design. There are plenty of CSS &quot;frameworks&quot; that you can easily adjust to get a good baseline for your forms without dealing with browser deficiencies yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree&#8230; tables for tabular data, not design. There are plenty of CSS &#8220;frameworks&#8221; that you can easily adjust to get a good baseline for your forms without dealing with browser deficiencies yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: Ronald Huereca</title>
		<link>http://www.devlounge.net/friday-focus/friday-focus-29/comment-page-1#comment-40937</link>
		<dc:creator>Ronald Huereca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2007 00:22:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I, too, do not use tables for forms.  Don&#039;t get me wrong.  I am extremely tempted every time I have to use forms, but am glad in the long run that I decided to stick with CSS and DIVs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I, too, do not use tables for forms.  Don&#8217;t get me wrong.  I am extremely tempted every time I have to use forms, but am glad in the long run that I decided to stick with CSS and DIVs.</p>
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		<title>By: Stefan Klose</title>
		<link>http://www.devlounge.net/friday-focus/friday-focus-29/comment-page-1#comment-40779</link>
		<dc:creator>Stefan Klose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2007 10:57:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Visit Cascadia breaks one of the don&#039;ts of webdesign: This site is almost about 959 KB (!). Great and innovative Design - but.. thats much too big..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Visit Cascadia breaks one of the don&#8217;ts of webdesign: This site is almost about 959 KB (!). Great and innovative Design &#8211; but.. thats much too big..</p>
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		<title>By: Ranjani</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ranjani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2007 01:29:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know, I usually find a way to get my forms to work using divs. I haven&#039;t used tables in a long time, but I still feel that it wouldn&#039;t be appropriate to use them for form fields. Tables, after all should hold data and were not meant to be part of the structure of a design -- or that&#039;s what I think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know, I usually find a way to get my forms to work using divs. I haven&#8217;t used tables in a long time, but I still feel that it wouldn&#8217;t be appropriate to use them for form fields. Tables, after all should hold data and were not meant to be part of the structure of a design &#8212; or that&#8217;s what I think.</p>
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