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		<title>By: State of the web for 2007</title>
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		<dc:creator>State of the web for 2007</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 02:21:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a proper service. You get what you pay for. This article on devlounge raises some good points about freelance being ruinedd which inspired some of my [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Justin D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justin D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 13:55:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you&#039;re trying to support yourself, as an adult in a major city, as a freelance web designer, you shouldn&#039;t be in competition with the kind of people who sell designs at this level. The people buying these designs are not interested in really investing in a web site. I work with photographers all the time on their portfolios and none of them would take a designer seriously if they charged so little. What we&#039;re really talking about is value vs. cost, and the clients you should want are those that understand that relationship and aren&#039;t looking to get something for nothing.

If you&#039;re just getting into blogging, or setting up a site to sell the tea cozys you knit, that&#039;s one thing. A serious freelancer should be looking at gainfully successful businesses and individuals, and leave all this to the geeks on the street.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you&#8217;re trying to support yourself, as an adult in a major city, as a freelance web designer, you shouldn&#8217;t be in competition with the kind of people who sell designs at this level. The people buying these designs are not interested in really investing in a web site. I work with photographers all the time on their portfolios and none of them would take a designer seriously if they charged so little. What we&#8217;re really talking about is value vs. cost, and the clients you should want are those that understand that relationship and aren&#8217;t looking to get something for nothing.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re just getting into blogging, or setting up a site to sell the tea cozys you knit, that&#8217;s one thing. A serious freelancer should be looking at gainfully successful businesses and individuals, and leave all this to the geeks on the street.</p>
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		<title>By: Olly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Olly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 12:03:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fair enough :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fair enough <img src='http://www.devlounge.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: aj</title>
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		<dc:creator>aj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 20:47:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Olly - The bulk of my work comes from clients (not premade), but I took a few months off during the DL sale and then while I was getting some other things in order, and to get back into the swing of things I have put together some templates over the last few weeks, sometimes based around upon what I see is hot and selling quickly on forums and marketplaces, but because it does not look the same as these other designs, the items aren&#039;t selling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Olly &#8211; The bulk of my work comes from clients (not premade), but I took a few months off during the DL sale and then while I was getting some other things in order, and to get back into the swing of things I have put together some templates over the last few weeks, sometimes based around upon what I see is hot and selling quickly on forums and marketplaces, but because it does not look the same as these other designs, the items aren&#8217;t selling.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Brown</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 14:45:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to say I agree with you on many levels AJ. I really don&#039;t see much money in template design anymore, not for the lack of demand or designs but for the lack of quality and integrity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to say I agree with you on many levels AJ. I really don&#8217;t see much money in template design anymore, not for the lack of demand or designs but for the lack of quality and integrity.</p>
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		<title>By: Olly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Olly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 13:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You make a few good points. Alas &quot;Any time I’m fooling around in Photoshop and I end up throwing together a template&quot; knocks your credibility a bit for me. There&#039;s a few ways you van go though, such as:

A) Drop your prices so you&#039;re competitive in the template market. 

B) Switch your creative process right around, so it&#039;s tailored to the customer. The problem with generic templates is that you&#039;re creating them without knowing if it&#039;ll actually suit someone&#039;s needs. Instead, why not speak to the client first and build a bespoke site that&#039;ll suit their requirements?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You make a few good points. Alas &#8220;Any time I’m fooling around in Photoshop and I end up throwing together a template&#8221; knocks your credibility a bit for me. There&#8217;s a few ways you van go though, such as:</p>
<p>A) Drop your prices so you&#8217;re competitive in the template market. </p>
<p>B) Switch your creative process right around, so it&#8217;s tailored to the customer. The problem with generic templates is that you&#8217;re creating them without knowing if it&#8217;ll actually suit someone&#8217;s needs. Instead, why not speak to the client first and build a bespoke site that&#8217;ll suit their requirements?</p>
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		<title>By: Nico Zwemstra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nico Zwemstra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 06:59:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You definitely have a point here. Also see &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.underconsideration.com/speakup/archives/004033.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Armin&#039;s  post&lt;/a&gt; on Speak Up.

I think part of the problem is that new designers just think that&#039;s the way to do it, because a lot of well-known webdesigners do it that way. They suppress their own creativity and follow the herd, just to get their designs to look like those famous ones. Unleash your creativity!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You definitely have a point here. Also see <a href="http://www.underconsideration.com/speakup/archives/004033.html" rel="nofollow">Armin&#8217;s  post</a> on Speak Up.</p>
<p>I think part of the problem is that new designers just think that&#8217;s the way to do it, because a lot of well-known webdesigners do it that way. They suppress their own creativity and follow the herd, just to get their designs to look like those famous ones. Unleash your creativity!</p>
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		<title>By: Sydney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sydney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 03:29:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Definitely agree with you. I&#039;m ready for these people just to vacate the web, but I doubt it&#039;s going to happen. I am appalled at the incredible amount of idiots who actually buy a certain Wordpress rockstar&#039;s ridiculous &quot;premium themes&quot; when they can get much better work for free. It&#039;s just...sad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Definitely agree with you. I&#8217;m ready for these people just to vacate the web, but I doubt it&#8217;s going to happen. I am appalled at the incredible amount of idiots who actually buy a certain WordPress rockstar&#8217;s ridiculous &#8220;premium themes&#8221; when they can get much better work for free. It&#8217;s just&#8230;sad.</p>
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