Comments on: Pros and Cons of WYSIWYG Editors http://www.devlounge.net/publishing/pros-and-cons-of-wysiwigs Design, Develop, and Grow Wed, 17 Mar 2010 12:23:00 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Chris http://www.devlounge.net/publishing/pros-and-cons-of-wysiwigs/comment-page-1#comment-176888 Chris Mon, 24 Nov 2008 02:16:22 +0000 http://www.devlounge.net/?p=2011#comment-176888 @Thord: My point was that you're also using your mouse for hours to mock up a design in Photoshop or Fireworks if you're a designer. :P @Thord: My point was that you’re also using your mouse for hours to mock up a design in Photoshop or Fireworks if you’re a designer. :P

]]> By: Mike http://www.devlounge.net/publishing/pros-and-cons-of-wysiwigs/comment-page-1#comment-176739 Mike Wed, 05 Nov 2008 15:20:04 +0000 http://www.devlounge.net/?p=2011#comment-176739 More often than not at work I hand code in Dreamweaver. Why? Convenience mostly. I know there are editors that have the same capabilities, but seeing the code in color and having code and css property cues/auto-completion saves me a lot of time. I've never used any of the design tools or help files in Dreamweaver and started out my career in notepad, but as Patrick mentioned, the file management capabilities of Dreamweaver have kept me from using something else. At home I run a setup that is similar to what I have at work, except that my home PC is setup as a test server. This is an area where Dreamweaver has come in handy for me. Really, who cares what you use to get the job done? As long as it's done right and on time the tools you use to get there shouldn't matter. More often than not at work I hand code in Dreamweaver. Why? Convenience mostly. I know there are editors that have the same capabilities, but seeing the code in color and having code and css property cues/auto-completion saves me a lot of time.

I’ve never used any of the design tools or help files in Dreamweaver and started out my career in notepad, but as Patrick mentioned, the file management capabilities of Dreamweaver have kept me from using something else. At home I run a setup that is similar to what I have at work, except that my home PC is setup as a test server. This is an area where Dreamweaver has come in handy for me.

Really, who cares what you use to get the job done? As long as it’s done right and on time the tools you use to get there shouldn’t matter.

]]> By: Patrick http://www.devlounge.net/publishing/pros-and-cons-of-wysiwigs/comment-page-1#comment-176688 Patrick Fri, 31 Oct 2008 19:38:50 +0000 http://www.devlounge.net/?p=2011#comment-176688 I only use Dreamweaver because its file management capabilities are second to none. I know it's a waste of a WYSIWYG editor, but I love to hand code my sites. Also, hand coding is easier in Dreamweaver for me, probably because I'm so used to it by now. I only use Dreamweaver because its file management capabilities are second to none. I know it’s a waste of a WYSIWYG editor, but I love to hand code my sites. Also, hand coding is easier in Dreamweaver for me, probably because I’m so used to it by now.

]]> By: Rob Scott http://www.devlounge.net/publishing/pros-and-cons-of-wysiwigs/comment-page-1#comment-176646 Rob Scott Thu, 30 Oct 2008 00:37:04 +0000 http://www.devlounge.net/?p=2011#comment-176646 WYSIWYG is a good place to start, and also a good way to learn the rudiments of HTML - by seeing how what you do in design mode impacts upon what is displayed on the page. Providing you keep checking the source code, and also look at XHTML compliance (I'm bad at this even now I use notepad for most stuff!) as often as possible, they offer a great way to get your teeth straight into writing websites. I started designing using some very basic WYSIWYG programs, and have ended up using php, javascript, jquery etc as well as HTML - all in notepad. I wouldn't have made that leap straight off the bat - its too daunting, and too slow! A good start, but those using them should understand the drawbacks and try to get away from them as far as possible. I hardly ever open Dreamweaver any more! WYSIWYG is a good place to start, and also a good way to learn the rudiments of HTML – by seeing how what you do in design mode impacts upon what is displayed on the page. Providing you keep checking the source code, and also look at XHTML compliance (I’m bad at this even now I use notepad for most stuff!) as often as possible, they offer a great way to get your teeth straight into writing websites.

I started designing using some very basic WYSIWYG programs, and have ended up using php, javascript, jquery etc as well as HTML – all in notepad. I wouldn’t have made that leap straight off the bat – its too daunting, and too slow!

A good start, but those using them should understand the drawbacks and try to get away from them as far as possible. I hardly ever open Dreamweaver any more!

]]> By: Harry http://www.devlounge.net/publishing/pros-and-cons-of-wysiwigs/comment-page-1#comment-176597 Harry Sat, 25 Oct 2008 18:47:27 +0000 http://www.devlounge.net/?p=2011#comment-176597 Personally I prefer a text editor generally I use Homesite (the old Allaire editor bought out by Macromedia). Since this product is no longer available I always tell my friends to look at Alleycode , although there are plenty of other good free alternatives. I agree with FlyboyArt's comments on WYSWYGs, but for those who insist on WYSWYG Pagebreeze and Bluevoda are worth looking at. Unfortunately learning a skill - HTML/CSS does n't sit well with the 'I want it now with no effort' mentality, and I cant see that changing any time soon - their loss. Harry ps thanks for this great resource by the way. Personally I prefer a text editor generally I use Homesite (the old Allaire editor bought out by Macromedia). Since this product is no longer available I always tell my friends to look at Alleycode , although there are plenty of other good free alternatives.

I agree with FlyboyArt’s comments on WYSWYGs, but for those who insist on WYSWYG Pagebreeze and Bluevoda are worth looking at.

Unfortunately learning a skill – HTML/CSS does n’t sit well with the ‘I want it now with no effort’ mentality, and I cant see that changing any time soon – their loss.

Harry
ps thanks for this great resource by the way.

]]> By: amit http://www.devlounge.net/publishing/pros-and-cons-of-wysiwigs/comment-page-1#comment-176580 amit Fri, 24 Oct 2008 19:41:22 +0000 http://www.devlounge.net/?p=2011#comment-176580 Cons in WYSIWIG HTML editors???? Are you serious? http://www.livbit.com Cons in WYSIWIG HTML editors???? Are you serious?

http://www.livbit.com

]]> By: Thord Daniel Hedengren http://www.devlounge.net/publishing/pros-and-cons-of-wysiwigs/comment-page-1#comment-176576 Thord Daniel Hedengren Fri, 24 Oct 2008 08:37:57 +0000 http://www.devlounge.net/?p=2011#comment-176576 Why I personally write all my code in a text editor (Coda is my choice), there are a surprisingly large amount of web designers using Dreamweaver in particular. Hence, this post. :) And Chris, I wish it was that simple. In reality, you'll get issues after working with something for long periods of time, so that means you could be a kickass designer and suddenly get problems. The decision to swap tools might follow, for instance, I've got a colleague using a trackball to spare the elbow. Why I personally write all my code in a text editor (Coda is my choice), there are a surprisingly large amount of web designers using Dreamweaver in particular. Hence, this post. :)

And Chris, I wish it was that simple. In reality, you’ll get issues after working with something for long periods of time, so that means you could be a kickass designer and suddenly get problems. The decision to swap tools might follow, for instance, I’ve got a colleague using a trackball to spare the elbow.

]]> By: FlyboyArt http://www.devlounge.net/publishing/pros-and-cons-of-wysiwigs/comment-page-1#comment-176573 FlyboyArt Fri, 24 Oct 2008 00:46:35 +0000 http://www.devlounge.net/?p=2011#comment-176573 If you don't know HTML markup... you aren't a web developer, period. Depending on a WYSIWYG editor is a crutch. It generates bad code, fat code and non-standards compliant code. If you are serious about webdesign/development, get yourself a good text editor and dig in. If you don’t know HTML markup… you aren’t a web developer, period. Depending on a WYSIWYG editor is a crutch. It generates bad code, fat code and non-standards compliant code. If you are serious about webdesign/development, get yourself a good text editor and dig in.

]]> By: Chris http://www.devlounge.net/publishing/pros-and-cons-of-wysiwigs/comment-page-1#comment-176570 Chris Thu, 23 Oct 2008 17:40:55 +0000 http://www.devlounge.net/?p=2011#comment-176570 <blockquote>You will have to use your mouse a lot, which could cause what is known as a Repetitive Stress Injury and cause pain in your wrists or shoulders</blockquote> If "writing" a website in a WYSIWYG (not WYSIWIG as you've spelled it throughout the article) gives you RSI, you probably shouldn't be <b><i>designing</b></i> websites in the first place; assuming that this is targeted towards web designers who don't know how to write markup.

You will have to use your mouse a lot, which could cause what is known as a Repetitive Stress Injury and cause pain in your wrists or shoulders

If “writing” a website in a WYSIWYG (not WYSIWIG as you’ve spelled it throughout the article) gives you RSI, you probably shouldn’t be designing websites in the first place; assuming that this is targeted towards web designers who don’t know how to write markup.

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